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The geyser is a fairly reliable device and, with proper operation and proper care, will last a long time. However, sooner or later everything breaks down and requires repair. Gas appliance malfunctions must be left in the capable hands of professionals. However, today we will look at typical examples of speaker breakdowns that are not related to a defect in the device, and we will learn how to identify this or that breakdown even before the arrival of specialists.
Repair of a gas burner with piezo ignition
February 25, 2016
Recently, portable gas burners have been actively gaining popularity. They are small in size and have a reasonable price. You can easily take them with you. The range of applications for such burners is extremely diverse. They are actively used by tourists and lovers of outdoor activities. After all, instead of a regular fire for cooking, it is much more convenient to use a special device, in which you can also regulate the strength of the flame. In addition, modern portable burners are equipped with functions such as wind protection, a holder for utensils, and more.
In addition, the presented device is often used in dachas where gas is not supplied to the house. Then such a device will greatly simplify your life in cooking. The presented device is also used for soldering, heating parts, etc.
Every year burner models are improved. Now on the market you can often find a gas burner with piezo ignition. Piezo ignition is an additionally inserted element that gives a spark, from which, in fact, the burner ignites. This is very convenient because you won't need to use matches. All you need to do is press a button and you can use the burner.
However, not everything about this feature is great. It breaks down very often. Then you will be faced with the question of how to repair a gas burner with piezo ignition?
Purpose
Let's first determine what methods of heating stoves there are:
- wood;
- charcoal:
- oil;
- gas;
- electric.
When using the oven in restaurants, cafes, etc. The question arises about the method of heating this oven. And if using firewood is convenient and environmentally friendly in open areas and presumably in the summer, then tandoors with gas burners will allow you to use them indoors and fit harmoniously into the conditions of a modern kitchen.
It is possible to use heat-electric heaters, but the cost of electricity cannot be compared with paying for gas. Therefore, if you plan to work indoors, then choosing a gas heating method is an ideal option.
A gas device is used for initial heating of the tandoor and accumulation of heat in the walls. It allows you to more smoothly regulate the heating, which will avoid cracks and burning of the walls. Subsequently, burners are used to maintain the required temperature in the tandoor, but not during cooking.
This is what the burners look like in the photo:
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Gas-burner. Types and work. Application and features
A gas burner makes it possible to obtain a controlled flame to perform various tasks. It is widely used in everyday life for welding, soldering, repair and household work, as well as cooking in camp conditions.
Where is a gas burner used?
This equipment is suitable for the following tasks:
- Softening plastic elements to give them the desired shape.
- Bending PVC pipes.
- Melting of non-ferrous metals.
- Warming up welds.
- Calcination of workpieces.
- Thawing ice in the pipeline.
- Disinsection of wooden structures.
- Quick ignition of the hearth.
- Scorching animal carcasses.
Gas burners produce a controlled flame with an even flame, the power of which can be easily adjusted using the existing valve. Thanks to this, the actual heating temperature can change depending on the required material that is heated or fired. Such a device is useful to have in almost any house or apartment. Even if there is no need to use it as a tool for soldering or welding, the burner will be useful for basic, easy lighting of a fire at a picnic. Its use is much more economical than using a special liquid for igniting the barbecue. Gas burners are used by beekeepers to disinfect wooden hives. Animal cages are also treated with flame, which is much safer and cheaper than using chemicals.
Burner ignition methods
Burners can be ignited by using a lit match, a lighter, or by pointing at an open flame source. This option is trouble-free and is found on devices in the lower price segment. A little more expensive, but also more convenient, is the presence of piezo ignition. The design of such devices includes a piezoelectric element that is activated when a button is pressed. It produces a spark that can ignite a gas jet. The operating principle of the device is similar to an ordinary push-button lighter. Often the piezo ignition resource is lower than the burner itself. When you leave it standing, you can then use ordinary matches or a lighter. Piezo ignition is an expansion option that does not affect the performance of the burner in any way.
Types of mini burners
A gas burner is a very popular device, so many manufacturers are working to improve this design for specific tasks that can be performed with its help.
Now you can find the following types of this equipment:
- Tourist burner.
- Cutter.
- Blowtorch.
- Gas soldering iron.
Tourist burner
Gas burners for tourism or camping have recently become very popular. They are connected to a miniature gas cylinder. You can use them to prepare food or heat water for tea and coffee. This is much more convenient than using a regular hearth. The burner does not emit smoke or unpleasant odors. As a result of combustion, only carbon monoxide is formed in small quantities.
Tourist burners come in three types with:
- Installation on a cylinder.
- Lateral connection of the cylinder.
- Long hose.
A gas burner mounted on a cylinder is the most common. It is a compact and trouble-free design. However, it is not without its shortcomings. Often its burner is very small, which is due to design features. This is due to the fact that creating a large flame source will lead to critical heating of the cylinder itself, which can lead to an explosion. When using such a burner, it is prohibited to install wind shields close to the flame. To light a burner in windy weather, you need to find a secluded place. The stability of this design depends on the width of the cylinder. Considering that compact kitchen utensils are used in camping conditions, the volume of which rarely exceeds 2 liters, the risk of tipping over is minimal. However, the burner must be carefully monitored, since it does not go out if it falls on its side. If the flame stops burning in windy weather, the gas will continue to escape until it runs out.
Troubleshooting other problems
Problems with the piezoelectric element are the most common “disease” of gas burners, but they are far from the only one, since other parts can also fail. This is especially true for devices that are used for a long time and “mercilessly”. In any case, the structure will have to be completely disassembled and then carefully inspected.
Do-it-yourself gas burner repair may be required if a malfunction is detected in the operation of the nozzle. There are two options here.
- Heavy pollution. This trouble occurs if gas was used to refuel the burner, the quality of which is far from ideal. The best option is to use lighter gas. Due to the accumulated dirt, fuel will not be able to enter the burner, which means there will be nothing for the device to work on. Cleaning the nozzle is a method that is quite accessible at home.
- The second problem inside the nozzle is the ring falling out. A common reason is the appearance of cracks in it due to strong heating. The consequence is the impossibility of igniting the burner, since the spark will fly in different directions. In this case, repairing a gas burner will consist of making a homemade element. For example, a similar ring can be made from copper wire.
How do you repair a gas burner yourself if the source of the problem is the nozzle? In both cases, the technician has the opportunity to fix the problem himself.
Cleaning the nozzle yourself
Checking the nozzle for blockage is quite simple. You need to remove this element, then look through the hole into the light. If the white “spot” is not visible, then the “diagnosis” can be considered confirmed, so cleaning is necessary. However, there is one big obstacle to this operation. This is a small hole for which it is very difficult, almost impossible, to pick up a needle or thin wire.
Therefore, it is not always possible to mechanically clean the nozzle. Another disadvantage of “violent” actions is the risk of widening the hole. Such a defect will inevitably affect the operation of the burner - the flame will burn incorrectly: its height cannot be predicted. For this reason, experts recommend using two other methods.
- Blowing out dirt. This method is suitable if the contamination is not yet too serious. The nozzle is removed, then pressed against the gas cartridge with the side with the hole, and begin to blow through. There is a chance to get rid of the interference in such a simple way. Instead of compressed gas, you can try using a powerful jet of water.
- The nozzle gets very hot. It should be noted that this option refers to cardinal, even brutal decisions. Craftsmen use it at their own peril and risk, since a possible outcome is destruction (burning) of the part. A wire is attached to the removed nozzle and then heated red-hot using a second burner. After this, the part is dipped in cold water.
If you choose the best option, then it can be called the first, more gentle one. But it is also not always effective. Therefore, many consider it optimal to search for a thin wire and then sharpen its tip. One of the places where you can “get” a super-thin needle is a tattoo parlor (art tattoo studio). In this case, there is a chance to guarantee both the result and the safety of the part.
However, there are times when even these methods are powerless. Then, instead of cleaning or heating, they use a solvent wash, which is distributed with a soft brush. Some owners, after treating with gasoline, blow out the part using a pump. They say that this “tandem” always helps to get rid of blockages. Another rescue option is a product designed for cleaning carburetors.
Replacing the nozzle ring
When a gas burner is used intensively, the ring operating at high temperatures falls out after a certain period of time and is then completely lost. Due to damage or loss of such a part, it is unlikely that anyone will decide to buy a new gas burner. Finding a suitable replacement is also not the best solution, so the owner is left with the only option. This is making a ring with your own hands.
The material of the original element is brass, but purchasing it is not advisable, since such a ring will be equal in cost to the price of a new gas burner. Copper, or rather ordinary copper wire, can become a full-fledged replacement for this expensive alloy. Its cross section is 2.5 mm. To create a new part, first cut a piece to the required length. Then the wire is bent, focusing on the diameter of this nozzle element.
Repairing a gas burner with your own hands will be a quick process only if the diagnosis is carried out correctly. How to distinguish between a ring falling out and a clogged nozzle? You need to try lighting the burner with matches. If the operation is successful, then you can exclude the “plug” from the dirt and come to the conclusion that the ring is to blame.
The stove burner does not light, what should I do?
If you initially have experience repairing hobs, you can contact the manufacturer to purchase new components, diagnose the problem using our numerous articles and, if necessary, fix it. If you have no experience, before you begin self-repair, you must understand and realize that working with gas is an extremely dangerous activity. Unauthorized repairs to the burner may simultaneously result in a gas leak and an electric shock. To avoid disastrous consequences, we recommend contacting us and getting professional maintenance for your household gas appliances.
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Some features of the operation of stoves of various brands
Before buying a gas stove with the Hephaestus logo, you should find out how its oven works, what functions and protective systems the equipment is equipped with. It is necessary to check whether its technical parameters and settings correspond to the type and pressure of gaseous fuel in the network.
Warranty service for gas stoves and household ovens of the Hephaestus brand is carried out by a service technician. Subsequent repairs or adjustments can be performed by specialists who have the appropriate permit to repair gas equipment
Using a gas stove in an apartment or country house requires the owner to strictly adhere to safety rules.
We invite you to read: Which is better: a stove or a hob and an oven?
The operation of a gas oven is allowed if:
- the stove is installed in a fire-safe place, grounding is carried out;
- the gas stove and, in particular, the oven are in good working order, all structural elements are without damage;
- the baking tray and wire rack are not overloaded - permissible weight up to 6 kg;
- The operating oven door is closed.
The device should be used only for its intended purpose - heating the room or drying flammable items is not permitted. If there is a smell of gas, first of all the common valve of the fuel supply pipe must be closed, and then all the burner valves. Emergency services are called to eliminate the leak.
There are three main plate control systems:
- mechanical;
- electronic;
- combined.
The principle of mechanical and combined control is described above.
How to turn on an oven in a stove with an electronic programmer using the Gorenje brand as an example:
- The time is set by simultaneously pressing buttons 2 and 3, then and -.
- The selection of functions on the clock on a programmer with an analog display is carried out by pressing the “A” button.
- Press twice to confirm your choice.
Press and hold the thermocouple button for several seconds and at the same time press the electric ignition button with the other hand (a spark or light is shown next to it). If piezo ignition is not provided, use matches.
To use the ARDO electric oven:
- Select the desired mode using the button or adjusting knob.
- Light it with a match or electric ignition.
- They don't close the door for a couple of minutes.
- Warm up the cabinet for 15 minutes.
The Bosch stove is equipped with a knob for timer, temperature, upper and lower heating. There are models with and without electric ignition. Set the temperature, select the heat, place the dish in the preheated oven and set the timer.
To turn on the Greta oven, turn and press the knob, hold it in this position for 15 seconds, then release. If necessary, no earlier than 1 minute later, repeat the procedure with the oven door open.
Be sure to read:
How to connect a gas stove with your own hands: step-by-step instructions, installation rules
In Indesit models with piezo ignition, just turn the knob towards the maximum temperature and press. In models with manual ignition, you must hold the knob down for 15 seconds, otherwise the oven will not light.
Be sure to read the instructions and study the safety rules.
The most important:
- Do not store cleaning agents, detergents or any other chemicals inside the equipment due to the risk of fire.
- Do not allow children to play with the device.
- Use special dishes for cooking.
- Use oven mitts: the equipment gets very hot.
- If you smell gas or smoke comes out, turn off the oven.
- Do not leave the oven running unattended.
- When the cooking process is complete, turn off the stove and remove the dish using oven mitts.
Which burner should you choose?
To always be able to drink hot tea or cook porridge in the fresh air, you should choose high-quality and reliable burner models that will not fail at the most inopportune moment.
One of the popular models that is in demand among tourists and picnic lovers is a folding burner with piezo ignition from the Kovea brand. The Korean company Covea, which has earned the love of customers, offers high-quality products at an affordable price.
Please note that such a burner will serve faithfully even with intensive use for many years.
Methods for troubleshooting geysers
Geyser "Vector" is one of the most popular in Russia. This is evidenced by sales statistics.
When the piezoelectric element does not work in the Vector gas water heater, a spark does not appear and the burner does not ignite. The reasons for the problems are:
- Lack of draft in the chimney. It could simply be clogged and need to be cleaned. There is a special sensor in the column that monitors the presence of traction. If it is not there, it will not start working. If you cannot do this yourself, it is better to call a special service.
- No water pressure. If the water pressure is very good, then it affects the membrane, which presses on the valve. Very low pressure may indicate problems with the membrane or that the filter is clogged.
- The nutrient element is not working. Ignition is done using batteries, without which there will be no current to create a spark. You need to remove the panel, then take out the battery pack, pull them out and insert new ones.
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In addition to power, design, type of fuel, they also pay attention to the manufacturer. They are non-specialized, that is, they produce everything, including burners for tourism. They are specialized, producing various types of stoves that run on fuel, or camping equipment, which includes burners. And of course, global manufacturing companies that are leaders in their segment.
Let's start with the leaders . Their developers are in constant scientific research, improving, inventing and patenting, relying on the experience and advice of famous athletes, tourists and climbers. Their products are of excellent quality and are quite expensive.
Specialized manufacturers include Korean products. It demonstrates excellent quality and a very reasonable price, copying “premium” models and using less expensive raw materials.
Non-specialists account for the wide production of various goods, with an impressive assortment: dishes, camping goods, various gas equipment, camping furniture, tourist and mountaineering rigging, tents, backpacks, sleeping bags and much more. Brands such as Tramp and Cadac are well known on this path. These products are “economy” class and are quite suitable for any budget.
The online store of tourist equipment "VinAuto" in Kyiv offers an excellent selection of burners and stoves for tourism, recreation, sports and work. Among the presented assortment you will find all types of burners. Minimum prices for burners start from 201 UAH. for the alcohol option. The maximum price threshold is UAH 3,879. for the multi-fuel model "Kovea Booster". The cost of slabs varies from 595 UAH. for the gas version “Tramp Stove” and up to 1,789 UAH. for "Campingaz Bistro 300".
The selection of a kerosene stove, burner or tile depends on your desires and capabilities:
- when gathering in a large group, climbing high into the mountains or going on a winter hike, the best burners are liquid fuel;
- if climate change is expected, it is worth buying a burner for different types of fuel;
- a picnic, short-term summer tourism or fishing will be helped by a gas burner with standard Epi-Gas cylinders;
- Multi-fuel models will help you when traveling around the world and hiking in unexplored places.
Choose what is more convenient and profitable. And let the warmth penetrate your tents and souls, softening and warming hearts in Ukraine!
Manufacturing Features
The design features are that it is very easy to operate; there are no traces of soot or repulsive odors when using the gas burner. This device is compact and can be used virtually anywhere. The main component of the burner is the industrial valve. You can purchase a new part, however, and used ones that are in working order are quite suitable. The process of making a burner with your own hands begins with the handle, then the body and nozzle are made.
In order to obtain a burner that is safe to operate and does not waste fuel, you need to make it a rule to avoid scaling and adjusting the example circuits.
To be fair, it is worth noting that not all gas appliances are calculated according to the laws of gas dynamics. But if the manufacturer changes the dimensions of the design parts, then the Reynolds number of the fuel (or intake air) will go beyond the limits indicated in the original product. The burner with such “improvisation”, if we give an optimistic forecast, will begin to smoke and will be “gluttonous”, or even be completely dangerous in operation.
And one more important note regarding the manufacturing features of the burners: it is impossible to increase its power above 10 kW. And that's why. With a burner efficiency of 95% (which is an excellent indicator for an amateur invention), with a device power of 1 kW, it will take 50 W to self-heat
It is theoretically possible to get burned on the structure, but it is not fraught with explosion. But if you build a burner with a capacity of 20 kW, 1 kW will be superfluous. Threshold manifestation is expressed by the structure being hot or bursting into flames. Therefore, those burner drawings that are oriented at 7-8 kW should not be considered
With a burner efficiency of 95% (which is an excellent indicator for an amateur invention), with a device power of 1 kW, it will take 50 W to self-heat. It is theoretically possible to get burned on the structure, but it is not fraught with explosion. But if you build a burner with a capacity of 20 kW, 1 kW will be superfluous. Threshold manifestation is expressed by the structure being hot or bursting into flames. Therefore, those burner drawings that are oriented at 7-8 kW should not be considered.
How to remove control knobs?
If you need to either adjust the flame in the burners of a Gorenje gas stove, or simply clean the buttons from accumulated grease, you can remove the handles from the control panel yourself, without using additional tools. Depending on the age of the model, the handles may have slight differences in structure.
The first thing you need to do is turn off the gas valve, and then make sure that all regulators are turned off. Next, you can slightly pry the handle with a knife to simplify the process of removing the handles.
So, if you have an inexpensive model, the handles can be removed by pulling, since each of them is based on a spring. To do this, just pull the handle towards you, slowly turning it along the axis.
On expensive models of Gorenje stoves, the handles may be equipped with special fasteners that must be unscrewed before pulling the handle
To prevent the handle from slipping in your hands, you can wrap it with a small piece of fabric, and only then pry it off with a knife.
Heavy contamination of the control panel can slow down the process of removing the handles, so in this case it makes sense to use a special soap solution. Having previously moistened each part with this solution, you can safely begin removing the handles.
If you are not sure that you can fix the breakdown on your own, it is better to contact the company with which you have an agreement for the maintenance of gas equipment.
Why doesn't it light up the first time?
Some equipment owners are faced with the problem of the burner taking a long time to ignite. Does the gas go out immediately after the button is released? the burner itself stop working on a gas stove after a while? The reason is most likely the thermocouple, which is located near each burner.
A thermocouple is an alloy of two metals. When this element heats up, an electric current begins to be generated. It is this that causes the magnetic valve to remain pressed, thus preventing it from closing the passage of gas through the burner. A dirty thermocouple is the most common reason why a gas stove does not ignite the first time.
You can clean the thermocouple using sandpaper, which you can buy at any store that specializes in selling building materials.
After cleaning, the element begins to heat up well, the gas no longer goes out. In some cases, cleaning does not help: the equipment still does not light up the first time. This may be due to the fact that the thermocouple itself has failed - you need to replace or change the piezoelectric element.